The proposal to make NC voters show a government-issued photo ID is gaining widespread condemnation by editorial boards across the state. Read these recent editorials from the major newspapers in Asheville, Greensboro, Raleigh, and Wilmington. Smaller papers in places like Ahoskie and little Washington are also covering the issue. The head of the NC Republican Party is asking his members to lobby for the bill (H-351) in a new video, but reporter Mark Binker took the time to debunk the video’s false claims about voter fraud, citing research from Democracy NC. Debate on the bill continues this week (Wednesday, 1 pm, Room 643 of the Legislative Office Building). Students at Johnson C. Smith University in Charlotte held a press conference yesterday to voice their concern that students at private colleges are especially harmed because only student IDs from public colleges are acceptable. The bill sponsors say they may adjust the bill so it does not discriminate against private colleges. Meanwhile, anti-immigration zealots want even tougher restrictions that would eliminate virtually all student IDs. A new version of H-351 that may or may not address these concerns is expected at Wednesday’s meeting.
Anti immigration zealots? Is that a fair characterization? Do you want illegal immigrants voting? I don’t. They’re not citizens.
Yes, it’s a fair characterization, because anti-immigrant zealots are behind this measure. The perception they are trying to establish is that non-citizens are voting; the evidence, however, belies that claim.
What evidence? Do you realize that illegal immigrants are obtaining fake social security numbers to claim that they are citizens? No the correct answer is we need to tighten up on illegal immigrants to ensure the sanctity of the voting process not being tainted by non citizens.
If they are obtaining false documents, then the Voter ID bill is worthless; they’ll just obtain a false ID in order to vote.
Plus, none of you have provided any evidence that ineligible voters actually are casting ballots. You talk a lot about it, but you don’t prove what you say.
In NC over the past few elections, five ten-thousandths of one percent of ballots may have been cast unlawfully. And don’t forget, someone who is ineligible to vote isn’t necessarily a non-citizen. Both you and I are “ineligible voters” in our neighboring counties, although we aren’t undocumented persons.
On the other hand, nearly a million NC voters do not have a state-issued photo ID.
Why are we so anxious to disenfranchise potentially 16% of our citizens just to — maybe — prevent five ten-thousandths of one percent of the ballots from being cast?
That’s the whole point of having photo IDs to reduce the risk of fraud. The fact that illegal aliens use fraudulent social security numbers is an indication that fraud is part of their arsenal. Why wouldn’t you think they would use fraud to vote?
I’m sorry that I don’t have evidence but I don’t have the advantage of the public funding a gravy train research like Democracy NC has. The risk is too high for voter fraud to ignore the problem. If we need to show a photo ID to cash a check, surely we can do the same for guarding the sanctity of voting. I would think all reasonable people could agree with this.
Your numbers are wrong, I’ll quote Democracy NC own study, ” 460,500 are Active registered voters with no indication of a NC current and valid ID.”
Of that number 460,500, a portion of those have had their drivers license revoked due to committing a crime, as you know, felons are not eligible to vote. (which is a good thing right?) If my math is correct (which it is), 460,000 divided by 5.6 million voters equals 8%. A portion of that 8% are not eligible to vote due to not accounting for felso who have had their drivers license revoked. Now it sounds managable, right?
Please don’t fall for the left’s whitewash of voter fraud. It’s a bigger concern than you think. See below article:
http://michellemalkin.com/2010/10/27/62680/
Here’s a problem in NC: http://www.usfinancialpost.com/election-2010-voter-fraud-in-north-carolina/851579/
How long does it take for moderation? Does someone else need to work up a response first?